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did mr. ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best thing for biden in the whole thing. >>> did you observe that part buchanan is glorifying here? >> i agree biden was very effective with that argument and it set you want something for ryan to attempt to discount it by saying ryan is full of all these gaffes all the time but i didn't think it came across as effectively as they wanted it do. it got a laugh but didn't kill the argument biden was making about the 47%. >>> when we come back, the benghazi blame game. you spent years hard at work, building your skills and talents, raising your family. and lately, like me, you're probably feeling
did mr. ryan effectively counter the infamous 47% mitt romney quote? >> no. no. and you didn't play biden's response there. he said i always say what i mean and so does governor romney. that was a wonderful response to that comment. the 47% is not a made up thing. it is what governor romney believes. >> the 47% riff by biden was the best part of the debate for him. he said what are you talking about? my folks i grew up with in scranton, my neighbors my parents that was the best...
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and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital and now i intend to spend it. it is my style. that's what happened in, after the 2000 election. i earned some capital. i've earned capital in this election, and i'm going to spend it for what i told the people i'd spend it on. which is you've heard the agenda. social security and -- >> social security, first on the list. when george w. bush won re-election in 2004, the first thing he said he wanted to spend his political capital on, first on the list was social security. specifically what he meant was privatizing social security. no more social security safety net, just hand it ov
and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital and now i intend to spend it....
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nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a voucher -- >> ryan: 100% coverage. >> how do you make that up in >> ryan: by taking down the subsidies for wealthy people. this is a plan -- by the way the $6,400 number was misleading then and it's totally inaccurate now. this is plan i put together -- >> biden: not one democrat endorses this. >> ryan: our partner is a democrat from oregon -- >> biden: and he said he does no longer support you. >> ryan: we put it together with a former clinton advisor -- >> biden: who disavows it. >> ryan: here is the point martha -- if we don't fix this problem prett
nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a...
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. >> >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress -- to make up for lost ground. >> reporter: he talked about the auto bailout. >> when mr. ryan said that romney was a car guy, i thought well if they have them in an elevator, i guess he was. >> reporter: for a group of undecided voters put together in virginia, a split decision. this voter thought mr. biden won. >> the vice president did. >> why? >> i think he came off as being very strong, emotional, and i like the looking at the camera and talking to the american people. >> reporter: another, paul ryan. >> vice president joe biden was being kind of immature, with a lot of the snide -- he sneered and everything. >> reporter: and take a look at this photo, at the very top, no apology, followed by egyptian people, and alq. an interesting night, brian >> reporter: while he spends a lot of time in ohio, as polls show, now the democrats once with a wide lead, now within striking distance. >> ron mott in ohio, thank you, starting us off. >>> the
. >> >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress -- to make up for lost ground. >> reporter: he talked about the auto bailout. >> when mr. ryan said that romney was a car guy, i thought well if they have them in an elevator, i guess he was. >> reporter: for a group of undecided voters put together in virginia, a split decision. this voter thought mr. biden won. >> the vice president did. >> why? >> i think he came off as being very strong,...
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mr. ryan has never debated in a world wide forum. while mr. biden has. so it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months ago! can you believe it? mr. obama does some soft news, like the late night shows and the view. but rarely sits for policy interviews. i've interviewed the president twice. but indications are he will dodge "the factor" this year. we hope he doesn't. he wants to reach independent voters, this is the place. obviously any interview he does with us will get world wide attention. vice president biden is even worse in the serious media. he's done few national tv interview views and rarely does he talk to local tv people. he's never been on "the factor," although i will tal
mr. ryan has never debated in a world wide forum. while mr. biden has. so it is crunch time for the congressman. mitt romney and the republicans are counting on ryan to continue the momentum and to at least parry anything vice president biden says. can he do it? that is the drama of the debate in kentucky this evening. since the campaign began, the obama team has not dealt with the media very much. even though the media loves the president. the last white house news conference, seven months...
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mr. ryan took the president to task on that delay of the deadline two days from now for its determination on china and postponing it after the election and ryan called it another example of the press's refusal to do the necessary steps to jolt the economy back into a surge and create more jobs, particularly here in ohio where the manufacturing industry has taken such a hit and i postponing it after the election ryan suggested there's clearly an absence of leadership based on politics. watch. >> you have to stand up for the american manufacturing system. giving good speeches, you know, saying the right things, that sounds good, but getting it done is what matters. we are going to get it done because we know you need to have a strong manufacturing sector to have a strong america. >> paul ryan got some pretty good props for the debate performance the other night in the vice presidential contest but for the most part it wasn't considered to be a game-changing debate in any sense. so the onus
mr. ryan took the president to task on that delay of the deadline two days from now for its determination on china and postponing it after the election and ryan called it another example of the press's refusal to do the necessary steps to jolt the economy back into a surge and create more jobs, particularly here in ohio where the manufacturing industry has taken such a hit and i postponing it after the election ryan suggested there's clearly an absence of leadership based on politics. watch....
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. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if ryan does reasonably well, they can convey he's doing better than expected. it's not true. >> this is a seven-term congressman who does p90x every day, runs marathon -- >> he's debated his opponents many times in wisconsin. >> what's he talking about? >> romney knows that. the big question in this campaign is whether it will catch up to him, is he says whatever is convenient, whatever he can get away with saying. whether on something small like whether paul ryan debated his congressional opponents or on something big like his tax cut. >> indeed. robert, what does paul ryan say when joe bidens, i know
. >> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney. take a listen. >> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school. i don't know. >> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if...
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do you think this is going to be a washout and that mr. ryan is literally going to trounce biden? >> i was pretty amused by that story, martin, because we were at a paul ryan rally. these are not exactly neutral observers. i suspect they're part of that 90%, 95% i was talking about before, people who observe conservative media and some of those lines they were given there sounded like they were -- they had been previously announced by conservative talk show hosts, but the fact is that this works to biden's benefit because it lowers expectations. there are people who only hearing the jay leno punch lines about joe biden who think he is a bumbling idiot, and here is a guy who has had something like four decades in the senate. people who don't have short memories remember how well he stood up with sarah palin at a time when the question was he had to be impressive without looking like he was picking on her. he played it just right, and i think he knows how to play this situation just right, and paul ryan at the same time has to be careful not to get too wonkish here with a lot of num
do you think this is going to be a washout and that mr. ryan is literally going to trounce biden? >> i was pretty amused by that story, martin, because we were at a paul ryan rally. these are not exactly neutral observers. i suspect they're part of that 90%, 95% i was talking about before, people who observe conservative media and some of those lines they were given there sounded like they were -- they had been previously announced by conservative talk show hosts, but the fact is that...
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ryan tonight, he's going to call himself mr. ryan, not congressman. is the emergency room a great place to treat people without insurance? is this the future of american health care? >> my hope is that the future of american health care is going to be solved by a lot of the innovation going on out there and that we're going to do something to preserve and expand affordable access to good quality health care and that's what our focus should be, how do we make certain that everybody has access to affordable, quality health care. >> what do you make of your running mate's statement, governor romney's statement that we don't let people die in their apartments, we get them to the hospital, to the emergency room and that's how we handle people. is that satisfactory? what the governor has been saying twice now in the last couple of weeks now? >> what we want to make certain is that there is a continuum of care. of course, when there is an emergency situation, we are blessed to have great hospitals, great trauma centers that have those emergency rooms that ca
ryan tonight, he's going to call himself mr. ryan, not congressman. is the emergency room a great place to treat people without insurance? is this the future of american health care? >> my hope is that the future of american health care is going to be solved by a lot of the innovation going on out there and that we're going to do something to preserve and expand affordable access to good quality health care and that's what our focus should be, how do we make certain that everybody has...
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that's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >> so, where was mr. feely, you know, the neighborhood speedy delivery man? voters want to know. we flubbed a phone number or two, right? that simple mistake turned out to be a whopper for florida governor rick scott. during a meeting yesterday on a meningitis outbreak on the state, scott directed anyone with concerns to a toll-free hot line. the problem? here's what callers heard when they dialed the number scott had given. >> hello, boys. thank you for calling me on my anniversary. existing callers, press one. new callers, press two. >> wow, doesn't that sound -- doesn't sound much like the department of health. callers concerned about meningitis were directed in this case to call an adult phone line. the governor later notified of the mistake and it was quickly rectified but not before a few people fell victim, or whatever. >>> illinois congressman joe walsh unveils a gotcha photograph. here's walsh at a debate with duckworth last night. we don't get a great look at his snapshot but leave it to walsh t
that's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >> so, where was mr. feely, you know, the neighborhood speedy delivery man? voters want to know. we flubbed a phone number or two, right? that simple mistake turned out to be a whopper for florida governor rick scott. during a meeting yesterday on a meningitis outbreak on the state, scott directed anyone with concerns to a toll-free hot line. the problem? here's what callers heard when they dialed the number scott had given....
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mr. ryan? ryan ripe absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. look, when i look at the programs, we all have tragedies in our lives. i think of what they did for my family. my mom and i had my grandmother move in with us who was facing alzheimer's. medicare was there for her like my mom now who is a florida senior. when my dad died, she got social security benefits, it helped her go back to college in her 50s, started a new business with the skills she got, paid it back and taxes on the promise these programs will be there for her. we have to reform it for my generation. you see, if you reform programs for my generation, people 54 and below, you can guarantee they don't change for people in our near retirement, which is precisely what mitt romney and i propose. look what obamacare does. obamacare takes $716 billion from medicare to spend on obamacare, even their own chief actuary of medicare backs this up saying you can't spend the same dollar twice claiming this money goes to medicare and obamacare, and them they put the new obamacare board in
mr. ryan? ryan ripe absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. look, when i look at the programs, we all have tragedies in our lives. i think of what they did for my family. my mom and i had my grandmother move in with us who was facing alzheimer's. medicare was there for her like my mom now who is a florida senior. when my dad died, she got social security benefits, it helped her go back to college in her 50s, started a new business with the skills she got, paid it back and...
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it's about time they take responsibility. >> martha: mr. ryan. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate is in scranton? >> i sure do. >> 10%. and when you came in, 8.5%. that's how it is going all around america. >> that's not how it's going. it is going down joo. >> martha: this is his two-minute answer, please. >> did they come in and inherit a tough situation? absolutely. but we are going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. it is growing 1.3%, slower thran last year and last year was slower than the year before. job growth in september was slower than in august and august was slower than in july. we are heading in the wrong direction. 23 million americans are struggling for work. 15% of americans are living in poverty today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms, for a real recovery, that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing, five-point plan -- get america energy independent by the end of the decade. help people
it's about time they take responsibility. >> martha: mr. ryan. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate is in scranton? >> i sure do. >> 10%. and when you came in, 8.5%. that's how it is going all around america. >> that's not how it's going. it is going down joo. >> martha: this is his two-minute answer, please. >> did they come in and inherit a tough situation?...
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for his part, mr. biden has practiced with chris van hollen. ordering sandwiches from his favorite deli in wilmington, delaware, and lots of gatorade. he's also scouted ryan's speeches and poured into his book "young guns" written with a pair of fellow conservatives. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't ongressman saying, no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. >> reporter: many political observers discount the importance of vp debates, arguing they rarely if ever have tipped the outcome of the presidential election. that doesn't mean these meetings have been meaningless or unforgettable. in 2004, dick cheney was in a similar position, tasked with reversing momentum after john kerry was viewed as the winner in his first matchup with george w. bush. cheney attacked edwards as a sort of johnny-come-lately. >> the first time i ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight. >> reporter: there was lloyd be quayle. kennedy. >> reporter: and this from ross perot's running m
for his part, mr. biden has practiced with chris van hollen. ordering sandwiches from his favorite deli in wilmington, delaware, and lots of gatorade. he's also scouted ryan's speeches and poured into his book "young guns" written with a pair of fellow conservatives. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't ongressman saying, no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. >> reporter: many political observers...
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and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >> those are your words not mine. >> thank you very much sir. >> yeah. >> that was kind of strange, put words in people's mouths. >> jennifer: to put this in context, he is being asked in flint, michigan which has a huge crime problem and has been under a emergency financial manager, so a reporter asks are tax cuts basically going to resolve the crime issues? paul ryan did not want to be asked that question. he does not want to be put on the spot. so that's maybe just one window on what his response will be when he is pressed. >> you ca
and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >>...
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biden and mr. ryan. also eigd gill leprosy. we wi >> we will get feedback from geraldo rivera. on the channel you are watching "fox." >> 7 minutes to the sttop of th hour. the noble peace prize winner just announced moments ago. here is who it went to. >> the noble peace prize of 2012 is to be awarded to the european union. >> the european union despite the fact that the eu is currently facing a huge economic crisis. the decision praising the eu for promoting peace and democracy in europe. the iphone playing i spy on you yet again. the new report says iphone's operating system let's them prak user's behavior. it can be turned off but there's a three step process involved in your general settings. it disabled tracking in the past after criticism from customers. >> we wanted to another what you thought of last night's vice presidential debate. >> wade tweeting to us biden's lack of respect for biden only shows me his lack of respect for someone who has a different opinion. biden gacame to the debate with blame for the administration's failures. irene e-mailed us i am independent
biden and mr. ryan. also eigd gill leprosy. we wi >> we will get feedback from geraldo rivera. on the channel you are watching "fox." >> 7 minutes to the sttop of th hour. the noble peace prize winner just announced moments ago. here is who it went to. >> the noble peace prize of 2012 is to be awarded to the european union. >> the european union despite the fact that the eu is currently facing a huge economic crisis. the decision praising the eu for promoting...
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i found mr. ryan seems to exhibit grace under pressure. he seemed particulates. -- particulates. -- articulate. basically mocking them. he did not seem to take serious the thoughts and considerations independent voters have right now when they are trying to take -- make a decision. i found a personally insulting the way biden behave. >> how will you watch the upcoming two price -- two vice presidential debates? are you looking for anything from them? caller: i am looking for more of the same from governor romney. i watched the first debate. i was really impressed by him. i like the business sense. i happen to be from a part of the country that is thriving. that is due to the oil and gas industry. prior to that, i was born and raised -- [static] a democratic leadership. i moved west, trying to make a better life for myself and my .amily per i feel like governor romney has the most hope for me at this point to make things better and make it so that eventually i can return to where my family is and hope for a better future for my 10-year-old
i found mr. ryan seems to exhibit grace under pressure. he seemed particulates. -- particulates. -- articulate. basically mocking them. he did not seem to take serious the thoughts and considerations independent voters have right now when they are trying to take -- make a decision. i found a personally insulting the way biden behave. >> how will you watch the upcoming two price -- two vice presidential debates? are you looking for anything from them? caller: i am looking for more of the...
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rubi mr. ryan already har people in place, they come in reminding reporters, their candicandidate is not up to snu. do not expect much. paul ryan's people have been saying he younger, a lot less experienced, joe biden has been around forest e. and elected to senate whennpaul ryan of all of 3 years old, and biden comes back saying that paul ryan has been right in the heat, well steeped in this give and take. he has the edge over the vice president, then, when all said and done, both guys are considered by their guys to be little bit brilliant. that is amazing, that ascends over the stan standard of find e minutes. a man who knows these debates well, could be, majority leader. of course, mitch mcconnell here in the spin room, not many spinmeisters here. but i guess there will be. >> correct t welcome to kentuck. neil: a beautiful state. our table on what paul ryan has to do today, people have told us, hey, the onus so him. man, don't expect much. >> i think that the onus is on both, given signif
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mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. look, when i look at these programs, we've all had tragedies in our lives. i think what they did for our own family. my mom and i had our grandmother move in with us who has alzheimer's. medicare was there. it was there for my mom who's a florida senior. my mom and dad got social security survivors benefits, helped her go back to college in her 50s where she started a small business, because of the new skills she got. she paid all of her taxes on the promise that these programs would be there for her. we will honor this promise. and the best way to do it is reform it for my generation. you see, if you reform these programs for my generation, people 54 and below, you can guarantee they don't change for people in or near retirement which is precisely what mitt romney and i are proposing. look what obama care does. obama care takes $716 billion from medicare to spend on obama care. even their own chief actuary at medicare backs this up. he says you can't spe
mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. look, when i look at these programs, we've all had tragedies in our lives. i think what they did for our own family. my mom and i had our grandmother move in with us who has alzheimer's. medicare was there. it was there for my mom who's a florida senior. my mom and dad got social security survivors benefits, helped her go back to college in her 50s where she started a small business,...
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congressman ryan or mr. ryan or -- >> didn't they rule out congressman ryan for the moderator? >> yeah. >> requested that the moderator refer to him as mr. -- >> for the moderator. >> the moderator. >> doesn't play by the same rule that martha -- >> and you spent a lot of time discussing what you're going to call the other person, what that conveys. i sort of wondered if did they really come up with joe you're going to go out and refer to him as my friend? i don't think so. i think this was an example of him lapsing back into sort of obscenities as you said, what he's comfortable doing, been in the senate for a long time, the right honorable gentleman, my friend, my colleague and you fall into what you're comfortable doing. >> better senate-east than ill ease. >> that's true. >> that's why they do in the senate. >> you would rather refer to him as congressman ryan and remind everybody he's been part of the congress with the lowest approval numbers. >> that's the whole purpose. >> last point here. paul ryan for -- from, you know, outside assessment, was not seemingly that nervou
congressman ryan or mr. ryan or -- >> didn't they rule out congressman ryan for the moderator? >> yeah. >> requested that the moderator refer to him as mr. -- >> for the moderator. >> the moderator. >> doesn't play by the same rule that martha -- >> and you spent a lot of time discussing what you're going to call the other person, what that conveys. i sort of wondered if did they really come up with joe you're going to go out and refer to him as my...
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mr. ryan and mr. romney have served up one big crap burger an another in this race. the most farfetched is the fiction that they're trying to help the middle class. we're joined now by representative john yarmouth, democrat of kentucky, and a member of the house budget committee that mr. ryan chairs. thank you, sir, for joining us. we heard last night from mr. ryan about helping out the middle class. of course, we've also heard mr. romney say that, too. take a listen to this, sir. >> and i will get them lower. let me tell you how we can. i have a plan to cut taxes for middle incomes taxpayers. my plan does this, there will be no tax on interest, dividends, or capital gains for middle income families in america. >> i must draw your attention to that, sir. according to the tack policy center, 70% of the federal tax on capital gains is paid for by the wealthiest 1% of the people, the top 1%. yet mr. romney is telling us his capital gains tax cut, like it's some kind of gift for the middle class. i'm interested in your response to that. >> well, of course, we know that g
mr. ryan and mr. romney have served up one big crap burger an another in this race. the most farfetched is the fiction that they're trying to help the middle class. we're joined now by representative john yarmouth, democrat of kentucky, and a member of the house budget committee that mr. ryan chairs. thank you, sir, for joining us. we heard last night from mr. ryan about helping out the middle class. of course, we've also heard mr. romney say that, too. take a listen to this, sir. >> and...
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mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. >> david, what about that? is social security going bankrupt? i know the answer. i want to hear it from you. >> social security last year turned a $95 billion surplus. it has a surplus built up, taxes we paid in advance for our benefits, of well north of $2 trillion. the only reason social security's future isn't strong is we haven't had wage growth and haven't had job growth. and ryan wants to get rid of social security. he is on the record in so many places saying that, that it is absurd of him to argue otherwise. he clearly wants to get rid of medicare as we know it, replace it with a system that only helps the rich. >> david cay johnston, great to have you with us on this friday evening on "the ed show." thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> ever felt that way where you just want to deck somebody? >> call the whambulance. fox news is freaking out about joe biden. >> it was openly cont
mr. ryan? >> absolutely. medicare and social security are going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. >> david, what about that? is social security going bankrupt? i know the answer. i want to hear it from you. >> social security last year turned a $95 billion surplus. it has a surplus built up, taxes we paid in advance for our benefits, of well north of $2 trillion. the only reason social security's future isn't strong is we haven't had wage growth and haven't had job...
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nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a voucher -- >> ryan: 100% coverage. >> how do you make that up in >> ryan: by taking down the subsidies for wealthy people. this is a plan -- by the way the $6,400 number was misleading then and it's totally inaccurate now. this is plan i put together -- >> biden: not one democrat endorses this. >> ryan: our partner is a democrat from oregon -- >> biden: and he said he does no longer support you. >> ryan: we put it together with a former clinton advisor -- >> biden: who disavows it. >> ryan: here is the point martha -- if we don't fix this problem prett
nobody -- >> ryan: mr. vice president -- i know -- >> biden: no. >> ryan: i know you are under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground -- [ laughter ] >> ryan: but people would be better served if we don't interrupt each other. they already organized the retirement -- >> let me ask you this. what -- what is your specific plan for seniors who really can't afford to make up the difference in the value of what you call a premium support plan and others call a...
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. >> reporter: and paul ryan was not afraid to strike back. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a duress to make up for the last round, but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> reporter: some punch and counter pudge. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: the final ryan pitch. >> you deserve better. >> ryan got the last word; but it was boy den the most aggressive, the most in control and the most biting. and on debate points he may well be judged to have won; but one question is whether his laughter at ryan, seemingly dismissive at times will be seen as the equivalent of al gather's debate-losing sighs in 2002, how voters will weigh that. you can come up with answers. whatever those answers are, it's a vice presidential debate, likely to be in the news for a couple of days, likely to be forgotten when the presidential candidates take the stage again on tuesday. awanetta? >> one
. >> reporter: and paul ryan was not afraid to strike back. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a duress to make up for the last round, but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> reporter: some punch and counter pudge. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: the final ryan pitch. >>...
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. >> mr. ryan, i want to ask you about the romney campaign talks a lot about no apologies. he has a book called "no apologies." should the u.s. have apologized for americans burning korans in afghanistan? should the u.s. apologize for u.s. marines urinating on taliban corpses? >> oh, gosh yes. urinating on taliban corpses. >> burning korans? >> what we should not apologizing for is standing up for our values or saying to the egyptian people that mubarak is a good guy and the next week say he ought to go. we should not reject claims for calls for more security. we need marines in benghazi when the commander on the ground says we need more forces for security. there were requests for extra security. those requests were not honored. look, this was the anniversary of 9/11. it was libya. a country we knew we had al qaeda cells there, as we know al qaeda and its affiliates are on the rise in northern africa. and we did not give our ambassador in benghazi a marine detachment? of course there's an investigation so we can make sure this never happens again. but when it comes to spea
. >> mr. ryan, i want to ask you about the romney campaign talks a lot about no apologies. he has a book called "no apologies." should the u.s. have apologized for americans burning korans in afghanistan? should the u.s. apologize for u.s. marines urinating on taliban corpses? >> oh, gosh yes. urinating on taliban corpses. >> burning korans? >> what we should not apologizing for is standing up for our values or saying to the egyptian people that mubarak is a...
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what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were settled last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actually this. his cam
what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point where mr. romney interrupted mr. ryan was when he said, you know, he was just acting so -- and romney jumped in, careful. careful. ixnay on the talking. at his first post-debate appearance today in wisconsin, vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at stake in this election, when it comes to women's...